As I write this, Dangerous Danny Garcia and I just wrapped recording on episode 3 of our second season of Over AF Wrestling Podcast and I honestly didn’t think we would even get to this point. So where did this start? Why did this start? What motivated me to continue the podcast and what exactly does Over AF mean?
I formally ran the Live 2 Win Podcast on iTunes which was focused on Pro Wrestling and Fitness. It ran 76 episodes from 2012 to 2015. I ended the podcast to focus on other ventures but never had disdain towards podcasts, it just wasn’t in my headspace anymore. I was ready to move on. So when former Co-host and friend Kc Omega brought up the idea to do a wrestling focused podcast in the summer of 2019, my immediate answer was “No”. Again not because I hate podcasting but because my head wasn’t there. I was focused on getting back in shape to begin filming upcoming Thorn Fitness Online Training Videos & music. But as KC, chipped away at the idea every day, I began to see a potential future. I knew the work I was going to have to put in because I’ve done it before, but my fear was being THE ONLY ONE putting in work (more on that later).
I came back to Kc with a couple of conditions, it needed to be focused on the past, not present because I haven’t watched and don’t care for the current product from any company AND I have to be the editor so I know what the final product sounds like. It had to be quality. I didn’t want any more responsibility than that. Set up, record at my place, final edit, and appearance. Promoting and art as well as photoshoot a would be handled by him. He agreed. Next was a name. We threw names back and forth not trying to sound to cliche like Hot Tag podcast or The Go Home wrestling podcast… Until one of us and I can’t remember which said how about over as fuck? In which I remember saying “yeah, that can work because we’ll make it look like a federation OAF” I started to get visions of signage, belts, posters, and shirts. As well as catchphrases.
I came up with the formula of one episode a week, Focused on different federations. After submitting the podcast to iTunes, Google Podcasts followed as well as Spotify and IheartRadio we were off to the races…. For two weeks and reality reared it’s ugly head that fast. See my concerns about starting the Over AF Wrestling Podcast weren’t just about adding to my project plate, it was also about working with Kc. I’ve been down that road before. And didn’t want to travel it again. In 07/08, we were in a band together and I was always carrying the extra weight of him not being as polished as the rest of the band. Also, the only one of us missing rehearsals was him. So we made the decision to kick him out for falling behind. 2 years later, my buddy Michael Stover (Host of the Turnbuckle Pad on YouTube as well as Stoverload podcast) called me up and gave me an opportunity to run my own wrestling event (Blackout Wrestling) and I recruited Stover for his visual sense in filming, Anthony Terrones because he worked with school system and this was a fundraising event and Kc because he was a manager at a grocery store so I figured he would make a great addition to manage the event…. Well, he was good for idea conversations on the phone, but when it came to actually getting together and doing the groundwork, Terrones was finding out the legalities to what could and couldn’t be done, Stover was typing up the sponsorship proposals, I was booking talent & handling graphics and KC was asleep in my living room. Yeah. So back to the current day. By episode 3, We were delayed by 2 weeks because he was too sick to record. Mind you, we love in a digital age we’re this could have been done from two different locations, on Skype, over the phone, Google Hangouts… editing. I was willing to work with any of those options. He wasn’t. But he fine enough to attend a baseball game and post about it.
I regretted the decision to work with him again. I took a near-decade break for these very occurrences. Once he was back, we went through episodes 3,4 and 5, 6 aaannnnddd once again, by episode 7 there had to be more delays. This time for personal choices made which I will not disclose here. I brought on My friend Danny Garcia, who comes from the same Golden Era timeline as I do. He was where I needed him when I needed him and watched the PPV in advance (the shock!) we recorded WWA The Eruption. Which became the highest downloaded episode of Over AF.
Kc played it cool, about the episode, even thanked Danny for helping while he was out. And we recorded TNA NO Surrender 2012 (episode 8)… Well, the next week on recording day, Kc was a no show. He was too tired and was in the skies… A real professional. So once again I called on Danny to rescue the schedule with one day’s notice. And he was there when I needed him. WWF King Of The Ring 1993 was now the second-highest download of the show. All signs pointed to kicking Kc to the curb and bringing Danny in full time. But I was foolishly willing to still give him one more chance. And that’s exactly what happened with episode 10. NWO Souled Out 97…
The podcast was picking up steam from Twitter, Facebook Groups and personal friends, I figured if we really wanted to grow it, we need to hit conventions and start doing live shows…. So I registered the Over AF Wrestling Podcast under My banner of brands to protect it as we move forward. Kc promised that he was in a new headspace and was serious about the show and loved where it was headed but once I told him I made the show legal under my umbrella of brands, he freaked out. A Misunderstanding led to him quitting and me parting all ties with him and removing him from all things Over AF. I was tired of the BS and the 9-5 mentality that couldn’t prioritize a simple project. In the end, I was left paying for the monthly cost of the podcast, handling art, promotion, recording, and editing. If showing up for 2 hours a week is an issue, there are bigger problems at hand.
Thankfully, Danny was happy to Officially come in as Co-Host as well as promote the podcast in his spare time outside of working 40 hours a week. Danny Made his Official Debut in Episode 11 (ECW Heat Wave 1998) and has been with the podcast since. My decision to continue into Season 2 was easy because now I actually enjoy doing it. Things are happening organically and Conversations are natural. I have less of a Guard up and Danny has actually come up with some really good ideas to take the podcast forward into Season 3 which will debut in the Summer of 2020.
Over AF has given me a reason to look into what initially made me love wrestling in the first place as well as giving Danny and me lots of laughs and memories. Here’s to the growth of Over AF and Re-living the great memories of Wrestling’s past.